People who unironically use the term "woke right" are broken, autistic people who oppose wokeness because it is political and not because it is a broken system of values. Little do they now, one must engage in politics to combat political movements. AFKing at home and complaining about how much other people suck gets you nowhere.
> People who unironically use the term "woke right" are broken, autistic people who oppose wokeness because it is political and not because it is a broken system of values.
You have that backwards. The woke right have the exact same values as the woke, they just think they can make the values work for them.
"Woke right" is merely the gatekeeping of who's allowed political involvement and in what capacity. They want you rendered as politically impotent as they are.
Maybe stop having no-no thoughts and do a few dozen Sokal affairs. That'll show the powers that be, right? That'll work, right?
"This is so because, by definition, if you are not a globalist, you must then be a nationalist (possibly you could be some obscure third option, but such people are practically non-existent at the moment, in contemporary politics all people effectively break down along the line of nationalism vs globalism)."
Obscure Third Option here. I think both liberal globalism and exclusive nationalism are unteanable.
I couldn't care less about Lindsay and his definition. My observation is that, ultimately, the woke want control. The woke right is the same. For the former it is to control what you think, while the latter aims to control what you do.
The woke right is a bad term but we do need a negative term for RW clowns who keep bloviating about “power,” the “total state,” and coordinated conspiracies by Jews.
I believe James Lindsay defined the woke right as the portion of the right that uses dialectical methods to achieve their ends. An example of the Woke Right is the portion of the right that uses identity politics, oppressed/oppressor language just with a different axis than the woke left.
To defend everyone's favourite centrist furry Tracing Woodgrains - to me, at least, it is clear that his criticism is not of people joining together in a shared political cause, but of undemocratic strategies such as bullying, no-platforming and restrictions on free speech. Which is the same criticisms that people make of the woke left (although not you, your criticisms of the woke left are very much of the left part, not the woke part).
I suppose it is consistent with other stuff you have written in the past where you have been honest about your lukewarm sentiments towards democracy. You're the sort who, when confronting reductio ad absurdum, would rather accept the absurd conclusion rather that reject the premise.
>undemocratic strategies such as bullying, no-platforming and restrictions on free speech<
Those are *specifically* democratic strategies, though. "Freeze peach" is not inherent to democracy! Democracy just means one mob of people beating the other into submission through non-violent means (and sometimes, there might even be a little violence involved). Perhaps you mean that these are illiberal or non-American strategies or something like that.
I am in the third camp between nationalism and globalism, namely Anarchism, which is often never given any serious treatment despite its merits. From my POV, the most important tribe to the individual ought to be the religious one, and otherwise ideological in general. Blood means nothing compared to being united in Christ.
Christ gives specific blood related commendments, and there is a whole section of St Paul's epistles where he states that he would wish he were cursed for the sake of his people
Am I aware, yet Christ clearly indicates that being united with Him is more important than one’s family when He speaks about father vs son and mother vs daughter.
People who unironically use the term "woke right" are broken, autistic people who oppose wokeness because it is political and not because it is a broken system of values. Little do they now, one must engage in politics to combat political movements. AFKing at home and complaining about how much other people suck gets you nowhere.
> People who unironically use the term "woke right" are broken, autistic people who oppose wokeness because it is political and not because it is a broken system of values.
You have that backwards. The woke right have the exact same values as the woke, they just think they can make the values work for them.
No it doesn't. Lindsay and Hanania don't reject meritocracy.
"Woke right" is merely the gatekeeping of who's allowed political involvement and in what capacity. They want you rendered as politically impotent as they are.
Maybe stop having no-no thoughts and do a few dozen Sokal affairs. That'll show the powers that be, right? That'll work, right?
We shouldn't let our enemies define us. We should step over the "woke right" label. Apart from that, it was a good read!
"This is so because, by definition, if you are not a globalist, you must then be a nationalist (possibly you could be some obscure third option, but such people are practically non-existent at the moment, in contemporary politics all people effectively break down along the line of nationalism vs globalism)."
Obscure Third Option here. I think both liberal globalism and exclusive nationalism are unteanable.
I couldn't care less about Lindsay and his definition. My observation is that, ultimately, the woke want control. The woke right is the same. For the former it is to control what you think, while the latter aims to control what you do.
The woke right is a bad term but we do need a negative term for RW clowns who keep bloviating about “power,” the “total state,” and coordinated conspiracies by Jews.
Maybe "trans-right", since they're basically lefties who identify as 'right'.
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I believe James Lindsay defined the woke right as the portion of the right that uses dialectical methods to achieve their ends. An example of the Woke Right is the portion of the right that uses identity politics, oppressed/oppressor language just with a different axis than the woke left.
To defend everyone's favourite centrist furry Tracing Woodgrains - to me, at least, it is clear that his criticism is not of people joining together in a shared political cause, but of undemocratic strategies such as bullying, no-platforming and restrictions on free speech. Which is the same criticisms that people make of the woke left (although not you, your criticisms of the woke left are very much of the left part, not the woke part).
I suppose it is consistent with other stuff you have written in the past where you have been honest about your lukewarm sentiments towards democracy. You're the sort who, when confronting reductio ad absurdum, would rather accept the absurd conclusion rather that reject the premise.
>undemocratic strategies such as bullying, no-platforming and restrictions on free speech<
Those are *specifically* democratic strategies, though. "Freeze peach" is not inherent to democracy! Democracy just means one mob of people beating the other into submission through non-violent means (and sometimes, there might even be a little violence involved). Perhaps you mean that these are illiberal or non-American strategies or something like that.
I am in the third camp between nationalism and globalism, namely Anarchism, which is often never given any serious treatment despite its merits. From my POV, the most important tribe to the individual ought to be the religious one, and otherwise ideological in general. Blood means nothing compared to being united in Christ.
Christ gives specific blood related commendments, and there is a whole section of St Paul's epistles where he states that he would wish he were cursed for the sake of his people
Am I aware, yet Christ clearly indicates that being united with Him is more important than one’s family when He speaks about father vs son and mother vs daughter.
> This reveals why the whole “woke right” smear seems not to have any teeth,
Oh, it does. You can't help yourselves from proving it more and more every day. But by all means, don't let me stop you from coping and seething.
Are the Japanese who want to keep Japan (>95%) ethnically Japanese woke right?